Monday, May 19, 2008

Sell your high level herbs? Yes you should.

I mentioned a while back that you should sell the herbs you can't use and use the GP form those sales to buy herbs you can use. I still think that advice is pretty good, although others don't quite see eye to eye with me on that point. I commented on Marlaine's blog about it, and though I would expand on it here.

Unids made it far more economically reasonable to sell your higher herbs, because you could buy unids rannars and above for 2k each then use what you needed and the pots paid for the herbs. Higher levels would buy the higher herbs for more, and you could continue to train endlessly
making money. Herb prices were also far less liquid than they are now, and the demand for potions much greater.


Why sell the high level herbs you can't use? They are over priced. Bottom line. They can only go down from here. Herblore is such a money loser at this point that people are giving up training it in droves. Go check the high scores. There is far less movement on it relative to pre-ge herblore, or to the other skills. This was an unintended consequence of a combination of 4 things:

1. The Grand Exchange
2. No more UNIDS
3. Easy price manipulation on the GE
4. The end of PKing


#1 and 2 are easy to understand. No need to keep things simple with 1k or 2k herbs. They are actually sold at a 'market price' now. #3 is a bit harder, but anyone with a few mil can corner most of the potion markets easily. Just continue to buy. There are not that many Torstols on the market, so if you constantly buy them all, you can sit on them and only sell for max, driving up the price. Done with 2 people it is even more efficient. One sells at max, one buys at mid +1gp, and he buys them all. Then they switch positions the next day. This was done last week by a group of players with over 700mil between them. They bought up every single p pot all week.

I have inadvertently done it with super restore pots. At any one time there are only 350-400 of them on the market (try it for yourself, only takes about 3mil). If you don't have 3mil, buy up 28-3 dose pots at median, combine and sell the 4 dose at max. Do this 15 times, and you will not only make money, but also see that what I am saying is true.

All that aside though, I believe that Jagex did not intend for herblore to be such an expensive skill to raise. That being said it is due for an update. Some mini-game, or an easier way to train or get herbs. Nothing in the neighborhood of nerfing the skill, no need for that at all, but something to correct what they broke in the process of creating the GE and eliminating PKing. Just look at RC. They keep adding tools and options to make that training go faster, mainly because it was slow and tedious to train.

If and when that update comes, the bottom will fall out of the herb market, and prices will be brought back in line.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I would have to agree with this post. Herblore is way to expensive to level now. To get from level 81 to level 82 cost me nearly 3m and that is only 180k or so experience. It is similar to prayer now to level, but at this moment god wars pays for most people to continue leveling. It is now possible to lose cash off buying the herb seeds and seconds...woe is me :p. Anyway, i just give my support.

Anonymous said...

I am trying to agree with you but I just see those stupid herbs going higher and higher - especially when I was actually going to buy some to help boost my dang herblore. I have a "problem" buying when I can make things myself or grow them. I have all 99 combat, so the thought of running around fighting just for herb drops feels like a waste of time, now. Farming is 99, too so I don't need the xp there either but my herblore isn't done yet. But herblore has never been an expensive skill for me because I never bought herbs - I saved them up. Patience is the key - waiting for stuff to fall, either on the exchange or from a kill. I got a drag chain for 8.4 mil - just before it began to rise again but I waited until I saw it lower and bid a bit higher - it almost went under 8 mil on the exchange!

I love the exchange! I sell the pots there but NO ONE wants fishing pots - even at the lowest prices. (Just for info!) I used to empty all the extra vials and refill with water when you couldn't get the vials easily. I never actively sold anything before the exchange - pretty much gave away or just held on to things.

Anonymous said...

Not to be picky but it is spelled Marlaine....... I don't know if there is a marlain in the game actually - yup there is!

Turbo said...

Thanks for your thoughtful post Marlaine. I went back and spelled your name correctly as well. Sorry about that.

I did laugh about your fishing pot comment. Those never sold, even before the GE. Aside from those, the GE is great. One thing I have found is that 4 dose pots sell better than 3 dose in many cases, especially the expensive ones.

You mentioned picking up vials off the floor, I do that all the time, but where do you get most of your vials? When they were 250 each, I purchased them from Ardo, but now they are low enough that I am buying them 1k at a time off the GE. Are you still going to the shops for them?

Anonymous said...

Hey its Marco. When I get time I will add you to my links. Do the same for me? Good entry. I haven't been able to get a high level herbalore because of the high prices. I have to grow my own herbs which is very slow.

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